Jim
Locke is Stan's friend and sometime tour manager for The Dickies.
He
was good enough to give us an interview about his involvement
with the band and the trials and tribulations of being on the
road!
Ciaron's questions in bold,
Jim's replies in normal lower case.
First off Jim, I’d like to thank you for
agreeing to the interview.
I'm looking forward to my moment of fame on your
website! Thank you for asking me to participate!
How did you become involved with the Dickies?
I was visiting family in California when I was walking
in a back alley in North Hollywood. I saw a poor waif hanging
out near Lanker shim Blvd. (where Erin Brockovich had her accident)
and he turned out to be a guy named Stan. We tried jamming guitars
and that didn't work. We tried golfing and that didn't work. I'm
not sure if we've found anything outside of eating that works,
but we're pals. I finally moved to L.A. with my pickup truck and
started hauling the equipment to gigs... The rest is punk-rock
history.... (I'm hoping for a reach-around when they come up for
r’n’r Hall of Fame nomination....)
How long have you worked for them?
I didn't know I did. I figured they liked me because
of my truck. Leonard calls me alot for rides. Rick calls me every
now and then to haul something around.
What exactly does the job of tour manager entail?
My job consists of making sure that NO one, ANY
where, at ANY time, EVER sees Stanley carrying equipment. And
there's no sex or drugs for Jim on the road. Noooooo! I'm talking
to some local Hebrew at 3 in the morning getting prices for mandolin
strings! Seriously... Have you been to camp? You know the guy
with the whistle and the clipboard? You know the guy that has
the thankless job and everybody hates him - from the agent, to
the promoter, to the groupies, to the band? Well.... That's me.
(Heavy sigh.)
Actually, the job description would read something like: WANTED:
Baby-sitter, parent, driver, map-reader, moneychanger, accountant,
friend, acquaintance, advisor, guitar-tuner, etc. Must be willing
to give up entire life for week after week of hotels, strange
people and places every day, and an endless stream of people wanting
something from you all the time. You'll get to hang out with world-class
talent day after day and discuss how grateful you are for the
great water pressure in the current venue's showers, how you wish
you would quit smoking, worrying that the guy that invented Muzak
is inventing something else, AND looking forward for that one
hour a day when your guys are on stage. All for about 17 cents
an hour...
All in all, if we get to the end of the evening and the guys are
treating me like I don't exist, it's been a pretty good day!!
Do the guys have any specific requests for their
rider? No blue Smarties perhaps!
Yes, they have specific requests for their rider.
As a matter of fact, I need to revise it, too. Currently, disposable
diapers, some of those funny umbrellas you put in drinks, hair
gel, an awl (grey handled), small assortment of Revere Ware, at
least two (2) naked natives for errands, a plumb-bob, American
cigarettes, chocolate bars and cinnamon Altoids. The Altoids are
for me!
Forgive my Yank-ness, but what are "blue smarties"?!?
Smarties are similar to M&M's, lots of different
colours. I was referring to the tale of a certain band who requested
that all the blue Smarties be removed before they set foot on
stage.
A-ha! We were just talking about that yesterday
after our golf round! The band in the US was Van Halen, and they
were brown M&Ms. Someone asked them why no brown ones, and
they replied something like "Because we can demand it."
Silly, huh?!?
Could
you run us through a typical day 'on the road?
Typically? Right... I'll wake up an hour or so before
the other guys and find out where the coffee is, where the mega
dome or whatever is, and how to get there.
Now, sometimes that's not as easy as it sounds. One time, I was
given the directions, always including the address (thanks to
Travis), and we started on our way in our nearly 14 foot high
vehicle. We were careening at breakneck speed (about 15-20 mph)
towards a 10 foot underpass. Ooops! So there I am, I’ve
got the opening act to the evenings Jones' Beach Amphitheatre
Offspring concert with me, and we're backing up a 35 foot motor
home on a New York Parkway!!
We made it across the road, found a couple of kids at a gas station
who knew an alternate route to the venue and they led us to the
gig. Needless to say they got to see the show from backstage,
and also got to hang with the Dickies and Offspring for their
efforts!! (And why do we drive on a parkway and park on a driveway
anyway?) But a daily schedule?
9:00 Scheduled Departure Time.
10:30 Actual departure time; start driving.
11:45 Rick's gotta pee, so we stop and everybody gets out, then
we get going again... But Where's Rick?
2:00 Travis is hun-gray, so we look for a Cracker Barrel.
4:00 Scheduled arrival time at venue for 8:00 show.
4:45 Actual arrival time at venue, unload and set up stuff.
4:46 I try to find the Production office to find out where to
get meal tickets, where the MTV interview guys are, where's the
dinner tent, when do we get paid....stuff like that.
5:30 Eat, and I listen to guys from NOFX, Green Day, Weezer, TSOL,
Lunachicks, etc talk about who's played with who, and who knows
who else. The Dickies are the coolest though, they've no one to
impress...
6:55 Tune Stanley's guitar, the famous Spidey.
7:40 Place set lists, towels and water (if I remember) on stage.
7:50 Tune Stanley's guitar again, and I get to play the power
A chord at maximum volume as a line check. (Except the one time
in Nagoya, Japan when I played an entire lick to a standing ovation.)
7:55 Round up everyone and tell them 5 minutes.... WHERE'S LEONARD?!?!
8:00 The Guys are on stage and playing like no body's bidness,
and they are ON TIME.
8:16 Leonard hands me his sunglasses and cap and asks me to hold
on to them
8:27 I look at Dave and wonder how long can he keep that up? (All
night as it turns out.)
8:30 Leonard needs another towel-- he really sweats a lot.
8:40 Stan looks at the crowd with that famous "I'm pissed
- don't fuck with me face", then looks at me off-stage and
smiles that "I can't believe I get paid to do this"
smile.
8:50 The Talking Dick has spoken and it's time to pack it up.
10:55 Find the hotel, check-in, watch the news, see who won, get
some sleep and do it again tomorrow.
Could you give us a run through of the guys
instruments? Was that a blue Gordon Smith SG I spied as Stan's
backup guitar?
Uh, yeah... I can give you a run through of the
guys' instruments.... Travis has some drums, cymbals, and other
stuff; Dave has a guitar and amp; Rick has a guitar and amp; Leonard
has.... He's got a ......... Uhhhhh..... Leonard's got some tights;
and Stan has some stuff, too....... But alas! You have a good
eye! You're colour-blind, but you definitely have a good eye.
(Where did your eye go?) The article in question would be the..............
"Bat Wing," a flat black Gordon Smith SG. On occasion,
for some gigs, the Bat Wing does leave the garage (where Stan
lives with Fred and ET). Folk lore has it that it was built for
him during their last European tour, and was constructed from
scratch in a month. The quote from Stan, his own bad self, is:
"Kudos to Gordon and Smith."
Are there any amusing road stories you could
regale us with? There must be loads!
Truly amusing??? Well, there was the time that Stanley
and Arnold.. No, wait, I can't tell you that.. Uhhhh, er.........
Mmmmmmm,....... Oh, ok -- Li'l Dave and Travis got some hoo.....
Sorry, I promised I wouldn't tell.... I guess there aren't any
amusing stories... Some of the coolest things are seeing guys
like Noodles from Offspring and Mike from NOFX, guys from Tom
Petty's band... And the absolute R-E-S-P-E-C-T they show the Dickies.
Let's see.... Actually, one comes to mind about camaraderie on
the road, and somebody may find it amusing: We had crossed the
border to Canada on that swing of the tour with The Offspring
a couple of years ago. They detained us for several hours while
checking for contraband. They would've shined flashlights up our
butts if they could have, but they ran out of places to look for
shit, and finally let us go after charging us 500 dollars payable
in cash. We had 3 hours left to make a 4 hour trip. To make things
a bit more difficult, we didn't speak French, and they didn't
speak English outside Quebec City!
After an incredibly pricey cell phone call we finally pulled up
to the venue just a few minutes prior to show time. There was
a blitzkrieg of Offspring people, Lit people, Dickies people,
and venue people pulling amps, guitars, drums, cymbals, cords,
and assorted other shit and carrying it to the stage in a flurry
of activity. I'm here to tell you that it was exactly 10 minutes
from putting the vehicle in park to Stan hitting that first B
chord of Nights in White Satin!!! 10 minutes!!! We couldn't do
that again if we practiced!! But that's what it's like if you're
on the road with great folks like that! Everybody pitches in to
get the job done. You can see why I wouldn't trade the experience
of being on the road for anything!!
So anyway, there was also the time that Stan and
Arnold.. No, wait, I can't tell you that.. Uhhhh, er...........
Mmmmmmm,....... Oh, ok -- Li'l Dave and Travis got some hoo.....
HEY, wait a minute! Hasn't anyone told you about the long-standing
tradition started by the Beatles (Paul's group before Wings) that
what happens on the road stays on the road? |